Scientific American recently published an overview on fibromyalgia called “An Unnerving Enigma” suggesting that new clues may crack what’s going on in this mysterious, difficult-to-treat disorder and lead to new treatments.
This article gives us a good platform to look at where the science of fibromyalgia is now. As we do an overview of the article, we’ll be fleshing it out.
The article starts with Deborah, a mother, and author, who suddenly developed such deep muscle pain and fatigue that, in between her visits to doctors, she ended up spending entire days in bed. She ran through the usual gauntlet of doctors and specialists and was tested for multiple sclerosis, arthritis, cancer, lupus, Lyme disease, and a catalog of autoimmune disorders, only to be diagnosed two full years later with fibromyalgia.
The Trauma Connection
Like some other Fibromyalgia patients, Deborah had experienced a traumatic incident prior to coming down with Fibromyalgia. She appeared, however, to have recovered from her severe auto accident of a year earlier when Fibromyalgia struck. While she fits a certain pattern in FM – a traumatic incident within a year of getting sick – how to translate that accident into her Fibromyalgia is entirely unclear
That has been done in other disorders. In the case of chronic regional pain syndrome (CRPS) a small injury occurring just after an infection triggers an autoimmune response that attacks pain-sensing neurons in the spinal cord. Take away the infection prior to the injury and the disorder doesn’t occur.
Similar patterns involving autoimmune responses and chronic pain are showing up:
- Surgery that triggers an autoimmune response in the limb of the patient.
- Autoimmune responses attack potassium channels and cause severe pain without showing any visible damage.
- Autoimmune responses cause severe pain that occur out of the blue.
Most of these involve sudden onset, do not leave physical marks, baffle physicians and leave them prescribing antidepressants. Understanding how these illnesses get activated will surely help inform our understanding of ME/CFS and FM.
Update – An Autoimmune Connection between fibromyalgia and long COVID?
Limited Effectiveness From Central Nervous System Approach
Just getting the diagnosis helped Deborah, as did stress reduction, dietary changes, yoga, and mild exercise, but the FDA-approved drugs didn’t. The therapeutic approach to fibromyalgia has been largely built on the idea that FM is a brain disorder that causes pain sensations and other stimuli to be greatly magnified. Deborah’s muscles weren’t damaged; her brain was.
There’s certainly plenty of evidence for brain dysfunction in both FM and ME/CFS, but drugs designed to dampen central nervous system pain signals have generally provided only modest relief to some patients.
The fact that the central nervous system pain signatures, formerly thought to be unique to FM, are showing up in other pain disorders suggests they’re common endpoints of a variety of processes. Chronic pain does appear to change the structure of the brain but that understanding, for the most part, has not left the medical field with better therapeutics (but see the end of this blog).
The Body Returns – Peripheral Nerve Destruction
It took oncologists treating cancer patients with ME/CFS on Rituximab to uncover that drug’s potential effectiveness, and it took neurologists finding misdiagnoses to understand the role the body may play in Fibromyalgia. Almost simultaneously, neurologists in three parts of the U.S. noticed a strange pattern; their small fiber neuropathy (SFN) patients tended to be first misdiagnosed as having fibromyalgia. (Note that this realization could never have come from FM specialists unless they were looking for SFN – which they weren’t.)
This suggests that the breakthroughs in FM, as with ME/CFS, may very well come from perceptive practitioners working outside the field. Indeed one of the neurologists, Dr. Anne Oaklander, tried to find and failed to interest any rheumatologist in working with her to validate her findings. In the end, she went it alone.
Hiding in Plain Sight – Peripheral Nerve Breakdown
The idea that FM might be affecting the nerves in the body, however, was not new. Caro’s 2008 study indicated that large fiber neuropathy was present in FM and that the symptom patterns in FM suggested a peripheral nerve disorder was present. It took neurologists working independently to validate his assertions years later.
Three SFN studies in fibromyalgia over the past year suggested that a significant percentage of Fibromyalgia patients have small fiber neuropathy. They suggest that something – perhaps an immune response or toxin – has attacked and destroyed or damaged the small nerve fibers in their skin. Patients with SFN form the peripheral neuropathy subset in FM, and they may differ widely from other FM patients. (About 45% of the FM patients in the limited studies done thus far have had SFN.)
Microneurography studies suggested that the surviving nerves were firing all the time, whether they were prodded by a stimulus or not. That suggested an ongoing stream of nerve signals to the brain could be causing central sensitization.
Researchers began to wonder if they were getting close to an important aspect of FM for some patients. All they needed to do was to identify why the small nerves in the skin were being attacked. That’s not so easy, however. SFN can be caused by an injury, genetics, diabetes, toxins, or an immune attack. While the SFN findings open up some new treatment options such as IVIG, SFN has not been easy to treat.
Still, objective findings of physical damage are good news in fibromyalagia, a disorder many doctors still believe is not quite real. (That disbelief does not extend to the research community anymore. At a pain conference a year or so ago, Dr. Daniel Clauw noted that rheumatologists used to vote at their annual conferences whether or not fibromyalgia was a real disorder. That stopped a couple of years ago.)
Perhaps the most important aspect of the small fiber neuropathy findings is that they give researchers new targets – such as the immune system – to aim at. One of the neurologists cited in the article believes the nerve damage in FM extends to nerves serving the muscles and the tendons. That’s an intriguing notion given Dr. Rowe’s findings of impaired nerve elongation in adolescents with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
(Does SFN occur in chronic fatigue syndrome? Dr. Martinez-Lavin believes it may, at least in those patients who experience tingling sensations in their extremities. A personal aside: At one time I regularly experienced tingling and numbness sensations in my hands and feet. Dr. Cheney described mercury poisoning, and when I stopped eating fish the sensations quickly disappeared. Peripheral neuropathy is a common symptom of mercury poisoning, yet my mercury levels did not appear to be high – they were apparently simply too high for me.)
Peripheral Nerve Buildup
The other major finding in fibromyalgia must have had FM researchers shaking their heads. Just as evidence surfaced that peripheral nerves were being destroyed, Dr. Rice’s team in San Diego published a study suggesting that too many nerves were being produced in FM. In fact, the Rice team found ten times more nerve fibers than normal. The catch was the nerve fibers they found were in the hands – an entirely different animal, it turns out, than the limbs.
Using specialized techniques never used before in Fibromyalgia, Rice found an explosion of nerves had occurred at the junctures in the blood vessels that allow blood to flow into the hands. It turns out that, besides being adapted to picking up things, our hands also function as blood storage reservoirs that release blood to the muscles when we exercise. Rice’s finding suggests blood might have trouble flowing out of the hands to the muscles when we exercise. That, of course, could explain much about the exercise intolerance in Fibromyalgia and perhaps in ME/CFS.
It could also explain the pain some FM patients feel when the weather changes. Our body adjusts our blood flows to compensate for temperature changes. If the blood is caught up in the hands it’s possible that the nerves in the skin elsewhere might go a bit bonkers when the blood flows they expect don’t materialize. That could cause pain.
Unnerving Complications
Tim will tell which nerve problem is most prevalent and important in FM. Rice’s work is more detailed than the small fiber work done thus far. He’s also found excessive nerve loads in a much higher percentage of FM patients (@75%) than have the small nerve fiber studies (45%). (The microneurography study also found much higher percentages of FM patients with excessive nerve firing than with SFN.) (Meanwhile, Dr. Martinez-Lavin believes nerve ‘sprouting’ in the spinal cord plays a role in fibromyalgia as well.)
In contrast to the possible autoimmune causes of SFN in FM, Rice’s work suggests estrogen may contribute to the nerve fiber explosion he’s found (and could help explain the female dominance in the disorder). He’s applied for a major grant to extend his work. An interview with him is coming up soon.
Are two subsets of patients with different kinds of nerve damage showing up in FM or do some people with fibromyalgia, paradoxically, have too few nerve fibers in their torso and too many nerve fibers in their hands?
The Chicken and the Egg
The debate over what is causing what in FM has begun. Longtime FM researcher Dr. Daniel Clauw of the University of Michigan believes a hyperactive central nervous system is causing the nerves to go bonkers in the periphery. He believes the central nervous system holds the key.
Equally longtime FM researcher, Dr. Roland Staud, believes healing the nerves will reduce the pain. Staud has published several studies showing that lidocaine applied to the nerves in the torso could reliably reduce FM pain – something that shouldn’t happen in a disorder purely caused by central sensitization. He believes treating nerve damage could help FM patients.
New Therapeutic Approaches Emerging
It’s clear that some rethinking of Fibromyalgia is going on and new therapeutic approaches are emerging.
Dr. Xavier Caro reports that immune-modulating treatments have been much more effective in his patients than the traditional central nervous system-acting drugs most doctors are familiar with. Caro has been suggesting this for decades (he proposed in 1989 that ‘fibrositis’ (e.g. fibromyalgia) had an immune component) but there’s some evidence that his peers may be listening now.
- See The body is back in Fibromyalgia; small fiber neuropathy study suggests the pain begins there.
- See Fibromyalgia Small Fiber Neuropathy Resource Page.
A chronic pain workshop recently called for the use of immune therapies in a wide range of chronic pain disorders including chronic regional pain syndrome (CRPS) and Fibromyalgia. The reports from the clinics on the success of these therapies in some patients are simply too positive, they assert, to be ignored.
If autoimmune processes are responsible for the small fiber neuropathy group and IgG subclasses are found to be low, then IVIG can be very helpful.
If the Pridgen antiviral study is as successful as reports suggest, then antiviral therapy will open an entirely new door on FM pathophysiology and treatment. A report from Dr. Pridgen is due in November.
A different kind of anti-inflammatory approach might be helpful as well. Studies and patient reports suggest FM is not a typical inflammatory disorder and anti-inflammatories are not generally effective, but some researchers believe the inflammation may be in the brain, not in the body. That could call for microglial inhibitors such as LDN, medical marijuana, and others.
- LDN Resource Center for Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
- Microglial Inhibitors – Hope for Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?
Finally, brain stimulation therapies are emerging that may be helpful. New advances in the field of transcranial magnetic stimulation are allowing researchers to reach deeper into the brain where many of the CNS problems in FM are believed to occur. Recent studies suggest this may be a promising therapy for FM patients.
Even newer to the field and as yet untested in FM or ME/CFS, vagal nerve stimulation (VNS) via the ear may be able to suppress a hyperactive sympathetic nervous system that’s believed to contribute to the pain, poor sleep, and cognitive problems found in FM and/or ME/CFS. Since the stimulus passes through the central nervous system on the way to the vagus nerve, auricular stimulation of the vagus nerve is actually a form of central nervous system stimulation.
Clinical trials underway in fibromyalgia include a variety of different treatment approaches that are being tested. From norepinephrine agonists (Droxidopa) to dopamine enhancers (Ropinirole) to glutamate inhibitors (memantine) to brain stimulation (rTMS), clinical trials are exploring different options for Fibromyalgia patients.
I appreciate how you are putting the test results toghether and explain them in a easily understandable review. Thank you!
Also I was pleased to see LDN mentioned as I am 50% better from my fibromyalgia on LDN. My original pain (neck and back) is not much better, but all the FM symptoms are reduced and some of them gone and pain 60-80% reduced depending on season winter/summer (I live in Norway).
Good to hear Renate. Congratulations. I imagine summer is better for you in Norway?
Yes, the Summer is fibromyalgia-patients best time of year in Norway! 🙂 Actually, in the peak of Summer, some days I can say that I am 80-100% better after LDN. And please, stop sending this low-pressure-air over the Atlantic will you? 😉
Thanks again for very interesting articles. I am translating as many of them as possible and posting them in groups here in Norway. (Always refering to your articles of course.)
Cort
Is PMR [polymyalgia rheumatica] a subset of FM? or do many other FM sufferers also have PMR? Why does increasing my doses of prednisolone reduce both my PMR flares and my ongoing FM pain? PMR is supposedly inflammatory, while FM is not????????
Barbara
I think FM is like ME/CFS – there are a variety of subsets and you’re in the inflammatory subset.
I didn’t know anything about PM but when I looked it up it sure sounds alot like ME/CFS and FM. It can have infectious onset, causes muscle stiffness and fatigue, usually attacks women and similar to ME/CFS has an inflammatory component.
I wouldn’t to tell you the truth take anyone’s word on whether FM or ME/CFS is inflammatory or not. Mild inflammation is clearly present in many people with ME/CFS and high inflammation is present in some. It’s clearly present to some extent in some people with FM…
I think the inflammation story is still pretty muddy….
That should all help tremendously at getting rid of the retrovirus creating all this pain and suffering.
http://americannewsreport.com/nationalpainreport/marijuana-rated-most-effective-for-treating-fibromyalgia-8823638.html
http://www.hightimes.com/read/medical-marijuana-more-effective-big-pharma-fibromyalgia
Two reports of how much more effective medical cannabis is than the top three drugs usually prescribed for fibro.
Iquitos- Could not agree with you more. Have son with Autism. It has saved his life.
Could never take drugs as always made him worse. I have CFIDS/ ME May help me. I have not tried yet.
He lives on the West Coast.
Thank you for your insite.
Thank you Cort for always being the Bright Spot for all the MOAN AND GROAN
PEOPLE.
Wish more people would tell of their experience with Medical Cannabis.
YES- WE HAVE THE EBOLA CURE IN THE SOUTH BUT CAN’T PASS A LAW TO HELP SUFFERING PEOPLE WHO NEED MEDICAL CANNABIS
Carole
Yes Carole, I agree, Ebola and many other infectious agents are considered bioterrorism threats, because of that “labeling” hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent on Ebola and many others, even if there is not one case of infection within our country. This is a Defense Dept. thing so I don’t see this changing any time soon. Do what you need to do to help you and yours live a better life.
Totally in line with my thinking Cort. I am sure this comes as no surprise to you. Brilliant article my friend.
Now if we can get this information into the hands of those who treat us.
Many thanks, Celeste
Yes, getting information down the line is surprisingly difficult.Thanks!
great post, Cort!
I just wonder about the science about your neuropathy/mercury in fish association. Could the relief of peripheral neuropathy after stopping eating fish be just a coincidence? I don’t know how mercury is stored in the body….it seems to me that nerve symptoms come and go.
I don’t know….It happened pretty quickly – I was quite surprised and relieved because my hands and feet were falling asleep regularly…and it never came back.
Mercury is a bit of mystery to me to tell you the truth. 🙂
I had a nerve conduction test 10 years ago because of foot pain and the test itself caused fire like nerve pain at the calf site. It slowly got better and now amounts to short periodic times when it slightly burns – be cautious.
Re hands, back when I could still hike my fingers would swell quite a lot when I was going up a mountain. Wondering now if this too was fibro related?
Iquitos, thanks for reminding me of marijuana, especially since learning Thursday that ultram ( tramadol) is now a controlled substance so I couldn’t get my refill and I’ve heard other pain meds are now harder to get and more costly. Apparently the government, in all it’s wisdom, is changing things up. Do you know where I could get CBD in the Springs or Denver area? There’s a long waiting list to get Charlottes Web. My email is girl42@comcast.net if you know of anyone – thanks.
DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN’T GET A REFILL ON TRAMADOL BECAUSE IT IS A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. UNLESS YOU ARE USING TOO MUCH!!!
I HAVE AN ANIMAL RESCUE GROUP AND HAVE 2 DOGS ON IT DAILY AFTER SURGERY. NOT SAYING YOU NEED TO USE VET RX-BUT DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN’T GET IT AT ALL.
USUALLY IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE GETTING REFILLS TOO CLOSE TOGETHER OR USING TOO MUCH.
CAROLE
Hi Carole,
I only use 75 mg twice a day, have been for years. The doc gives me 270 pills at a time with several refills. I had 3 refills left on this last bottle and went to pick it up Thursday – the pharmacist said it had become a controlled substance and my doctor now has to call in a new script each time. I don’t know if she’ll be limited to how many pills she can now order but wouldn’t be surprised. What a “pain” ( pun intended) for all of us on tramadol. I wonder if it will affect the vets too – I would imagine so.
I only take tramadol once or twice a day. Pharmacist had to call my dr for me to get a refill. I had 2 refills left & have only taken it for a few months. I was not taking too much.
Thank you so much, very easy to read & understand. I have suffered from FM for 30 years now and it’s so good to see ongoing research. Gives me hope. Thank you
From Shelley.
Tasmania
Hi Cort,
This is good news. I have thought for a while that the nervous system is tied up with my FMS pain and also the Vagus Nerve. Am having a lot of problems at the moment, no real good doctors hear at present so still trying to sort out what’s going on. A number of neurological problems and pain, also connected with jaw/teeth and braces. Once the braces come off in a few months time (after wearing them for 4 years) I will have a clearer picture.
My Orthodontist wants to put implants in where I have missing upper back teeth. does anyone have any info on FMS and implants please?
Tramadol has been a restricted drug in Australia for many years. My doctor had to get an authority every time I saw him so I could get two repeats. I have gone off it after 12 years as I was starting to have problems with it affecting my brain intellectually (couldn’t think, confused etc).
Thank you for all the great work you do Cort, much appreciated.
Jazel
Hi Cort,
Great article.
I wonder why I’ve not seen you review microcurrent therapy for helping FM? Dr K White was impressed when I asked him for his unbiased view on this research.
I thought these results looked too good to be true so after I found it helped me I asked 18 members of our support group to do a 3 week trial. 15 of them also found their symptoms reduced. It has far less side effects than medication, is very gentle and easy to use at home.
Four randomised studies on Fibromyalgia and the Alpha-Stim
1. 2001: The Treatment of Fibromyalgia with Cranial Electrotherapy StimulationJournal of Clinical Rheumatology, 7(2):72-78, 2001.
Presented at the Fifteenth Annual International Symposium on Acupuncture and Electro-Therapeutics, Columbia University, New York, October 1999. Lichtbroun, Alan S, Raicer, Mei-Ming C, and Smith, Ray B.
2. 2004: The Effect of Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation (CES) on Pain Associated with Fibromyalgia The Internet Journal of Anesthesiology, 8(2), 2004.
Authors: Randall C. Cork, M.D., Ph.D., Department of Anesthesiology, LSU Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA Patrick Wood, M.D., Department of Anesthesiology, LSU Health Sciences Center , Shreveport, LA Norbert Ming M.D., Department of Anesthesiology, LSU Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA Clifton Shepherd M.D., Department of Anesthesiology, LSU Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA James Eddy M.D., Department of Anesthesiology, LSU Health Sciences Center, Shreveport, LA Larry Price Ph.D., Texas State University, San Marcos, TX
3. 2011: Cranial Electrical Stimulation Improves Symptoms and Functional Status in Individuals with Fibromyalgia
Ann Gill Taylor, et al. 2011 by the American Society for Pain Management Nursing doi:10.1016/j.pmn.2011.07.002
4. 2013: A randomized, controlled, double-blind pilot study of the effects of cranial electrical stimulation on activity in brain pain processing regions in individuals with fibromyalgia
Ann Gill Taylor, et al (using FMRI) Explore: The Journal of Science and Healing, Vol 9, issue 1,Pages 32-40, January 2013
I had a fibro diagnosis for 25 years, went to all kinds of doctors, tried various treatment modalities, and went to support groups large and small. Yet I kept getting more and more symptoms throughout and it just didn’t make any sense.
Then, 25 years later, a nurse told me online what was going on. Upon learning about my many symptoms, she asked if I remembered ever being bitten by a tick. Answer yes, on my foot 25 years prior. She said I probably got Lyme disease, a bacterial infection. I subsequently blood tested positive and then took oral Clindamycin antibiotics around the clock like I’d done for a recent finger infection, but didn’t stop. In a week’s time, all my fibromyalgia pain of 25 years was gone!!!!! We’re all different when it comes to which antibiotic or treatment works. One reason for that is that there 100 strains of Lyme in the US and 300 strains worldwide, so we all have different strains.
Although Clindamycin doesn’t work anymore for the infection as the bacteria probably mutated, it still works to treat other infections I’ve gotten. Also, others usually take a combo of antibiotics to knock out the various forms of it, but i can’t as I’m allergic to other antibiotics. Many take herbs instead, like the Buhner herbs.
I can date all my symptoms – 10 weeks after the bite, sore neck and shoulders. One year later, stiff neck. 18 months later, general pain and difficulty sleeping. Within the next year, difficulty looking at light. Two and a half years later, my jaw closed up and I had to get a splint made. The following year, my prolactin count was found to be high and I subsequently had exploratory pituitary surgery. The surgeon found no tumor and declared me a medical mystery. And on and on.
When I found out about Lyme disease, I contacted as many of my old fibro friends as I could find, and by then, they had found out they had Lyme and some had co-infections like babesia, bartonella and ehrlichia. See the film “Under Our Skin” for free at http://www.hulu.com to witness many people with Lyme say they were first diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
We can get Lymed in various ways. The usual way is by being bitten by an infected tiny tick. Other insects have also been reported to transmit it. It is also transmittable via body tissues and fluids, and people can be born with it.
What the bacteria do: they get into the brain very quickly and begin to inflame nerves and the spinal cord, as they like the lipid content of nerves. They start interfering with the brain and causing general regulatory havoc with sleep, hormones, ANS systems like digestion, etc. They are spiral-shaped bacteria, called spirochetes, and can corkscrew into any tissue and cause inflammation there! That explains the multitude of symptoms we have. They do not like oxygen and so will hide in less oxygenated places, like the eyes, for example, or in joints, etc. They use up our magnesium and so we become energy-deficient from not having enough magnesium for our ATP energy cell cycle. They are pleomorphic, meaning they switch from their usual bacterial shape to cell-wall deficient forms and to cyst form where they can hide from antibiotics too.
Testing may or may not show the infection. I tested positive, after 25 years, via the IGeneX lab’s IgM and IgG antibody testing, but not everyone does, as the immune system could be too weak by then, or the bacteria could be in hiding, etc. People could also have co-infections that should be tested for, and then again, tests aren’t perfect. So these illnesses are often treated clinically.
Treatment needs to go after all forms of the bacteria. Treatment usually includes antibiotics, and often people take herbs, various supplements, do oxygen treatments, various energy treatments, etc. Treatment occurs in three categories: kill/deter the organisms, detox the inflammatory byproducts, and fortify the body.
I am doing very well with anti-inflammatories like drinking mangosteen juice which stops all my eye symptoms and keeps my intestines regular, putting bulk turmeric in 00 capsules which greatly reduces tissue and joint pain, drinking noni juice and taking grapeseed extract capsules which shrinks any lipomas I have to zero, etc.
Dr Xavier Cara’s reporting above about immune modulation showing some success in a chronic pain workshop comes closest to the mark here – IVIG – ie IV immunoglobulin is often given to Lyme patients to boost their immune system. What’s more, people have recently been going to India for stem cell injections, which boosts their immune system and turns around their infection. This falls in the third category, fortify the body.
For more info, please go to http://www.lymeassociation.com, http://www.lymedisease.org, http://www.lymenet.org – that last one you can make a post in Seeking A Doctor for a Lyme specialist in your area and people will send you private messages.
This article starts off by calling fibromyalgia an enigma, mysterious, etc. It only is if you don’t know about what a spiral-shaped bacteria called a borrelial bacteria, similar to syphilis but with 6x the genes, can do in the body. And once you know, everything you’ve been going through starts to make sense. A Lyme bacterial infection can explain everything in this article. Now it’s time for doctors and health professionals in general to get educated about it so they can help. http://www.ILADS.org is an excellent Lyme-literate doctor organization which helps get doctors trained. The 2008 Burrascano guidelines are good to read through too. “Cure Unknown” by Pam Weintraub will explain some of what’s been going on with the epidemic. After you watch “Under Our Skin,” you can see the recent sequel, “Emergence2”, an update.
One more thing: since infected ticks are spreading everywhere in vegetation, on wood and on animals, everyone needs to learn about how to stay protected, including our pets and the land. The above websites have lots of information. The last thing any of us needs is to keep getting reexposed, including to the other co-infections too.
Couple corrections to the info above – the first website I mention in the third to last paragraph is supposed to be http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org, and the sequel Lyme film is called Emergence. If anyone has any questions, I’ll be happy to respond – thx
Great article, great comments. Thanks guys. I agree re the micro current. I supply APS therapy and have seen 3 out of 4 clients transformed although I’m not as up on the science as you guys. Keep up the good work
I was 25yrs old when i got my fibromyalgia diagnosis. I thought theres no way in hell I can have fibromyalgia so young. I kept going to doctor after doctor after doctor and then I cam across a rheumatologist who actually did the trigger test and said no you dont have fibromyalgia I think you have Lyme diseas, and this is 4yrs later.
So they ordered some tests through a special lab in California. Also some from my local hospital. The lym test from California came back ” IND” which isn’t a positive but isn’t a negative either. The ones from my local hospital came back positive for bartonella, ehrilicia and brucella. I dont believe there is such a thing as fibromyalgia. Sorry everyone. Find a lyme literate doctor. Go to lymenet.com or ilads. Just do it. You can get better!!! What do you have to lose?
Many consider IND a light positive. Sometimes some treatment is needed before the immune system is strong enough to fight back. Good for the rheumatologist for recognizing you – we need more like him!