Numerous reports indicate that longtime ME/CFS pioneer Paul Cheney MD, Ph.D. died recently.
Talk about a major figure of the “old guard”. It’s hard, if not impossible, for many people today to get what a commanding figure Paul Cheney was, and how excited people were at his communications in the1990s and 2000s.
A superb communicator himself, Cheney was gifted with a remarkably effective communicator in one of his patients, Carol Sieverling, who provided a series of comprehensive, detailed, and effective reviews (which Cheney checked over) of Cheney’s work over the years.
Whether or not one ever saw Cheney, Cheney’s protocols provided hope, relief, and new options to many. Back in those darker days, Cheney’s communications provided, at the very least, the reassurance that an intelligent and thoughtful person knew ME/CFS was real, and was working hard on it.
People came from around the world to see him. In the early 2000s, when for a brief period of time I actually had some money, I immediately headed straight for Paul Cheney. He was “the man”.
Baptism of Fire
Dr. Paul Cheney’s career spanned the modern ME/CFS era. His ME/CFS journey began in the 1984-5 Incline Village outbreak which gained national attention – and left him and Dr. Peterson ostracized by many in the small Nevada town. Moving on after a couple of years. Cheney moved to Charlotte for ten years (where he worked with Dr. Lapp for several years), then established a practice for a short time on an island off the North Carolina coast. Around 2000 he moved to Asheville, NC where he remained for the rest of his life.
Creative Doctor
It’s hard to tell now exactly what Cheney introduced to the field and what he picked up from elsewhere, but he was clearly on the cutting edge of treatment possibilities for many years. Interesting ideas just seemed to flow from him. (This remembrance features Cheney’s work up to about 2007).
Cheney was one of the early doctors to focus on the limbic system and the gut. His theory that ME/CFS progressed in three phases (the Three Phases of CFS) was novel for the time. He proposed that RNase L activation (a major theme in ME/CFS at the time but now debunked) resulted in first gut toxicity, and later deep brain problems. He recognized the importance of cardiopulmonary exercise testing early and had a testing bike in his office.
Cheney seemed able to pluck interesting potential treatments out of the ether. Always thinking, always exploring, Cheney was in constant contact with people inside and outside the field. His protocols included things like undenatured whey (possible detoxifier and energy enhancer), Gookinaid (blood volume enhancer), Cheney’s “home-brew” (blood volume enhancer), rebound chairs, vertical hydrotherapy, human growth hormone, cell signaling factors, stem cells, artesunate, etc. He was the first, that I know of, to warn of the danger of dental cavitations. He may have been the first to notice missing fingerprints. He was, and remains, one of the few doctors to focus on detoxification.
Cheney very early glommed onto the importance of mast cell activation, and used doxepin elixir to tamp down mast cell activity. Stating that he believed the brains in ME/CFS were so active as to put them close to seizure, Cheney mused that he wished he could put his patients into a short-term coma to slow their brain activity. (He was a big advocate of using Klonopin, doxepin elixir, and magnesium to slow things down and protect the brain. At one point, Cheney said he tired of chasing after pathogens and focused instead on improving immune health with Ampligen, Kutapressin, Isoprinosine, and other possibilities.
Not that helping people with ME/CFS was ever easy. He told me that it usually took him a year and a half to figure patients out. Superb at getting positive disability rulings for his patients, he once remarked he was much better at getting disability than curing ME/CFS.
Dramatic Shift
In 2003, Cheney shifted direction dramatically. After a heart transplant operation temporarily personally recapitulated for him many of the symptoms of ME/CFS, he came upon a small study by Arnold Peckerman, titled “Abnormal impedance cardiography predicts symptom severity in chronic fatigue syndrome“, which suggested that a subset of ME/CFS patients had diastolic dysfunction.
Cheney called the Peckerman paper the “‘best, most important publication’ in the history of CFS”. (See my analysis of Cheney’s conception of that paper as well as an exhaustive (and exhausting) exploration of his cardiomyopathy ideas.) After he received a grant for an impedance cardiography machine, Cheney asserted that many people with ME/CFS had “idiopathic cardiomyopathy”, a diagnosis that did not get much agreement. He also used the term “heart failure” – a term with dire connotations which did not strictly fit his patients (but which Peckerman had used once as well.)
Because the diastolic phase of the heart requires more energy than the pumping phase, Cheney believed that problems with energy production were preventing the left ventricles of ME/CFS patients’ hearts from expanding enough to draw normal amounts of blood into them. Cheney believed that the reduced activity of an antioxidant enzyme which also inhibited energy production prevented ME/CFS patients from fully entering into heart failure.
Using the impedance cardiography machine to assess treatment effectiveness, Cheney’s protocol shifted rather dramatically as he abjured some of the treatments he’d proposed before.
- Check out two 2014 blogs from Chris for a good overview of Cheney’s new approach.
Cheney’s idea that a idiopathic cardiomyopathy was behind ME/CFS never seemed to take hold. His original conception of the cause of the “heart failure” in ME/CFS, which involved an infection in combination with a heavy metal such as mercury plus antioxidant issues, may, given what we’ve learned since then, to be wrong. He may have been on track in other ways, though.
In 2016, David Systrom’s finding of “inadequate ventricular filling” in patients with exercise intolerance seems (at least to me) to be analogous to the finding that so excited Cheney. Over the next five years, Systrom’s invasive exercise studies indicated that the reduced filling (preload) was caused by low blood flows into the heart. Systrom’s findings suggest that instead of heart problems, leaky blood vessels appear to be the culprit in a large subset of ME/CFS patients.
Cheney’s heart transplant in 2003 limited his work, and his impact on the community faded, but my understanding is that he continued to study and work with patients up until the end.
He certainly had his critics. For one, he was expensive – charging over $500/hour 15 years ago. While the tests done during the 2-day initial visits were, of course, expensive, Cheney’s high hourly rate plus his loquacious nature could and did send the bills flying.
Cheney co-authored about a dozen papers/studies on other aspects of ME/CFS until 1997. It’s not clear if he attempted to publish his findings or not but his findings were never published in scientific journals, now were his hypotheses ever subjected to the scrutiny of the scientific community. Nor, unfortunately, did he put his thoughts down in book form. As such, his reach has probably been limited than it might have been.
While Cheney was a founding director of the IACFS/ME, he didn’t, to my knowledge, participate heavily in that organization over time, or in federal efforts like CFSAC or the IOM report. Instead, he largely focused on his work and his patients.
A Three Decade-Plus Stand for People with ME/CFS
Time will tell whether Cheney’s unique ideas about this disease stand up or not. Whether he was right or wrong, whether his treatment ideas have stood up over time or not, Paul Cheney never relented in his commitment to his patients. Like Dan Peterson, his Incline Village partner, Cheney’s experiences during the Incline Village outbreak inspired him to dedicate his career to serving people with ME/CFS. Both doctors bucked their peers and courageously provided succor, relief, and validation to a much-neglected patient community when few others would.
It’s a shame that Dr. Cheney, in particular, with his curious and creative mind, didn’t get to live to see what the long-COVID research will unveil about the disease and the patients he devoted his career to.
Dr. Cheney was part of a pioneering and diverse group of doctors who fought the ignorance around them, experimented with new treatments, and consoled and validated their patients. We were lucky to have them.
- Erica Verillo’s Memorial to Paul Cheney
- A Facebook Group dedicated to the memory of Paul Cheney
- Learn more about Cheney’s protocols and ideas.
- Chris’s 2014 blogs provide an excellent overview of Dr. Cheney’s approach after he began focusing on the heart – From Mono To Giardia To Orthostatic Intolerance to … Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Dr. Cheney: the First Visit /The Cheney Chronicles #2: His Protocol For Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
- Check out an illuminating 2013 presentation from Dr. Cheney which provides the best overview of the heart issues Cheney found in ME/CFS as well as his later ideas about the disease.
I saw Dr. Cheney for a few years during the early 2000s. He was incredibly informative, and helpful. His treatments didn’t always work, but he was always searching for new possibilities. Before I first saw him, several doctors had been very insulting and dismissive of my symptoms. So what a relief to finally be taken seriously. Dr. Cheney didn’t have any of the arrogance I’d encountered in other so-called health professionals. I’ll be forever grateful for his reassuring presence and kindness.
Although my time with him (just before he had his heart transplant) was brief, when I think of Paul Cheney the words curious and creative spring to mind. He always seemed to be searching….
Thank you Cort for another wonderful article!
Yes thank you Cort
Video out of San Francisco early 90s… Interviews with Lake Tahoe victims.
In San Francisco everybody believed surface was caused by a virus. Everybody know about HIV and about how viruses can present. This film features Jay Levy and the California state health department talking about illness. The San Francisco public health department
The San Francisco public health department thunder the first national conference
Then the CDC and and I H started the job of humiliating us for you. I think the San Francisco story is really important to be told. I’m sending this in and another post I’ll send you the link to the movie which is called appropriately Aloha bing hell
Sorry, I have to use audio because of tremor and I can’t really fix it. The movies name is living hell made by the San Francisco CFIDS
Foundation.
I know Dan and Paul really well and we work with them in the early 90s and support of them the flight. But it was a long time friend and I hear hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0WYIej5OjE&feature=share
Cort, you left out insanely overpriced. 🙂
🙂
Dr. Cheney was a hero to me. He was not a great communicator or even a good one. To say otherwise is inauthentic and indefensible.
He likely saved my live in 2011. I did a lot of research and had to make a decision between him or the Mayo Clinic. He validated the hell that had become my life. I later found out the Mayo Clinic (at least at that time) was still taking thousands from each patient, then sending them out with the news that it was all in their head. I have always believed I would have taken my life if I’d gone to the Mayo Clinic. I remember the stunning meeting at his desk when I realized I wasn’t crazy and all this really was happening to me. I wish I’d hugged him. I will never forget how hard he worked all those decades to try and help us all.
He was a hero to us who got CFS decades ago before there was any research or blogs or anything . He was a beacon of light in just the fact that he believed us to be truly sick.
He could have gone on to have a lucrative private practice and retired quietly, but he, in the face of of his peers ridicule and condemnation kept right on going. Dr Cheney, along with a few early researchers and doctors, deserve our highest respect.
Thank you, Cort, for your wonderful tribute to him!
Well said, Jeanie. Most people don’t remember “decades ago before there was any research or blogs or anything.” I became ill in 1986 so I do remember those days. He was indeed “a beacon of light in just the fact that he believed us to be truly sick.” May Dr. Paul Cheney rest in peace.
I think the treatments that helped me the most were high dose hydroxycobalmin, mag/taurine shots, and vasoactive peptide spray, and the cell signaling factors. I was helped by the heart treatment and became less weak and more consistent. I saw him from 2007 to 2015
I think of him everyday. He helped me in the very beginning of this horrendous nightmare. I saw him in 1987 at the Nalle Clinic. He gave me hope as he would never stop trying to find the answers. He is on a pedestal in my mind. I feel so let down that he has died. It has hit me very hard. Even though I didn’t see him anymore, I never ever forgot him. I admired him tremendously. I am in shock right now. Sincerely, Javen Morell
Thanks Cort and others for your recognition of this trailblazing doctor. I read about Dr. Cheney in 1995 when I got sick. He gave so much to the ME/CFS community.
Jeanie said: “He could have gone on to have a lucrative private practice…”
Uh, that’s exactly what he did. His fees were unbelievably astronomical and unfair to the overwhelming majority of ME/CFS patients — charging them HUNDREDS of dollars for emails, just as one example.
Yes, he should be commended for believing in the disease when almost no one else did, but that’s about it. He was an ineffective doctor who completely lost touch with the REALITIES of the patient population after his heart transplant.
Agree. His papers were not peer reviewed or published in any meaningful journal.
It’s easy to be knowledgeable when a non medical patient is all you have to convince. Klonopin is just a benzodiazepine
From 1990 he was in Charlotte, North Carolina for 10 years. The time on the coast was a short-lived experiment. I saw him starting in 1995 in Charlotte, through 1999 and he was in Charlotte all that time.
He was the person who made it clear that I had to stop working, and enter the world of disability, a hard transition for me. My two big issues then were that I could not eat and could not sleep, two situations not conducive to living long. He straightened out the eating situation completely, and made the only suggestion to get me sleeping with all the sleep stages. My time of sleep is still unpredictable, cannot have it all. Dr Cheney was a rare good experience for me in my decades with this disease.
Cort, I meant the office location for 10 years to be used in your post.
🙂 Thanks Sarah – I just got it in there.
He had his clinic in Charlotte before he had the office on the North Carolina coast. He did not stay long there, on the coast, because of the storms. I remember getting the detailed instructions on how to reach that office, but the town name escapes me. I did not go to that office, nor when he settled in Asheville, which I regret now.
A question — does anyone know how old he was when he died this month?
I think he was going to turn 74 in July…just short of 74.
what did he die of?
As someone who got sick in 1997 I think this bears repeating “It’s hard, if not impossible, for many people today to get what a commanding figure Paul Cheney was, and how excited people were at his communications in the1990s and 2000s.”
He was one the few MDs to widely think up new treatment possibilities and hypothesis, and though as you mention many of those have or will probably turn out to be incorrect, his belief that we could figure out causes and treatments for ME/CFS was a ray of hope.
I’m with you, JAMES. He was my ray of hope for a long time.
Sincerely, Javen Morell
Glad to see that you did something for Cheney (he was there during inception with Peterson) I had never heard of the 2-5A RNase L being debunked. I know I had a tape done once from Cheney (8 track) that indicated that it was more up regulated than in HIV. Anyway I did a search and there was (something) on it being debunked but not being the least bit medical it showed numerous graphs. Then I saw another article that caught my interest it was titled (Activation of RNase L in Egyptian Rousette Bat Derived RoNi/7 Cells) Didn’t make much sense to me but maybe someone else can decipher.
Vincent Lombardi who ran the lab that did the RNase L test told me it was a laboratory artifact. There was something about the way the test was run which caused the RNase L enzyme to break up.
RNase L seemed like a simply monstrous breakthrough at the time and several doctors used the test to assess their patients. Kenny De Meirlier wrote a dense technical book about it called “Chronic Fatigue Syndrome – A Biological Approach” which I devoured. I t thought ME/CFS was solved! Unfortunately it did not work out.
Rest in Power, Dr. Paul Cheney.
Thank you for your fearless efforts to move ME/CFS forward.
Thank you for believing your patients.
Thank you for your intrepid resolve in the face of federal apathy.
Thank you for being a voice & fighting for so many.
Thank you.
Totally agree. Thank you Dr. Cheney. I hope you be in a better place now.
I saw dr. CHENEY twice..the first time at the Nalle Clinic. I found him informative, helpful, exuberant and extremely knowledgeable. I speak of him often. I’m deeply saddened to read this. He did his very best. I will have a place in my heart for him forever. Sincerely, Javen Morell
Even though I did not see him until 2007, I just found him so incredibly validating about the illness, after other practitioners were calling CFS the result of candida, mercury fillings, adrenal fatigue, and so many hokey pokey reasons for such a debilitating illness, it was so fantastic to really understand CFIDS at a much deeper level. He was so intelligent, and a real force in the field. Where would we be if he had not stood up for our illness early on?
Paul Cheney was one of the early clinician’s who inspired me to enter the field and become a creative thinker. I vividly remember sitting next to him in a scientific conference in the 1980’s and admiring his intellect and drive.
A real loss, my condolences to his family, colleagues and friends.
I am so sorry to hear this about Paul Cheney, whose work has been incredibly informative in terms of leading to a plausible understanding of this disease.
Here is a transcript and the video recordings of the presentation that he did in 2013.
https://paradigmchange.me/wp/cheney/
Thanks – that’s the latest presentation that I know of and it’s very complete. One thing I remember about Cheney was that he very early tagged the limbic system as the key problem in the brain and here he is in 2013 focusing on the subcortical part of the brain (limbic system, brainstem).
Not many people have glommed onto this weird part of ME/CFS – difficulty making decisions – which I relate to:
He had the most interesting idea that a collapse of the antioxidant system lead to a low energy state which in turn was actually saving people’s lives.
It’s also a great discussion of his heart findings. I didn’t realize he had gone so far. Given how much work he did on the heart over the years it’s unfortunate that he never put his ideas down in book form, submitted his findings to a journal, or even just submitted his hypothesis to a journal. It’s possible, I suppose, that he did do that and it was rejected although I suspect that would not have happened. All sorts of hypotheses make it into the scientific literature.
It’s really frustrating that such a creative thinker never took the extra steps to get his ideas out into the broader scientific community. Since no one seems to have picked up his work it seems likely that his ideas will die with him. If not for this presentation we would have no idea just how far he went with his cardiac and other ideas. Why Cheney never made that effort one of the big mysteries for me about him.
Dr Cheney was aware of his position as one of the first to set up his office as a specialty medical office. His lawyer said he might be targeted, limited in his medical practice that was tailored to M.E. patients, if he was too vocal in other arenas.
Medicare would not reimburse because he charged for telephone consultations. He took telephone calls between in-person visits, and in my experience they were a huge help (no travel) and his attention was fully on the issue of the call, which for me was how to handle a problem that arose in following his directions in a program of several months.
Now, in the pandemic, the value of telephone consultations are being seen, and sometimes covered by insurance.
Yet with his permission his ideas were disseminated to a large audience over quite a period of time. At least in my sphere he was easily the best-known ME/CFS doctor. I suspect that being able to publish his hypotheses or his clinical findings in a scientific journal would have protected him rather than hurt him. A book might have helped as well.
re ‘difficulty making decisions , Cort.
Just this morning for instance I found myself absolutely unable to sort the laundry, to make a decision on what should be washed with what.
Stared hopelessly at it then left it till later when I had no trouble.
So frustrating.
Cort, I think dr. Cheney just probably got tired. He worked so very hard all the time through adversity from others and had his own heart trouble. He went to Bald Head Island for awhile to regroup. He COULDNT stop THINKING. I’ll bet there are writings somewhere. His sister might know. I so miss his mind. He was just exceptional. Hipjaven@gmail.com
Thank you @Lisa Petrison, Ph.D
yikes! i always thought that if cfs/me persons could just have oxygen in masks for a little while, just to feel improved even for a short time…….
and this link you posted:
https://paradigmchange.me/wp/cheney/
blows that idea out of the water as very wrong.
and Cheney went into WHY cfs/me hearts are working differently (much worse) when his cfs/me patients are gived oxygen
He knew all this and had the data to prove it…………WAY BACK in 2013!!!!!
What on earth!!!!
WHY WHY WHY are not sophisticated tests such as he used automaticaaly ordered for cfs/ me patients AND those who are suspected of having severe illness suspected cfs/me TESTED as part of initial diagnostic tests!!!!!!
Type 1 Diastolic Dysfunction— so many ‘parts’ to this disease. Too much for me to listen to in the link— each ‘part’ of the disease cfs/me is a disease in its own part.
NO WONDER each researcher or scientists picks a different part of the disease—— or ‘elephant’ to study.
soo many pick the trunk or tail or toenail, just one part…….. because the disease me/cfs is JUMBO SIZED
Wish some WISE person would create a testing flowchart…….based on Cheney’s results………… complete with explanations of WHY ……….and showing supporting data ( with permission from Cheney’s estate)
A GIANT THINKER tackled an ENORMOUS disease. He made the disease squeal and give up some of its secrets.
I thank God for Paul Cheney; and for Cort and his cohort of thinkers, movers, and shakers.
I saw Dr. Cheney from the earliest days of my illness after I had been diagnosed with chronic encephalopathy and immune deficiency by two local immunologists in 1984. I admired his dedication to the treatment and search for causes of CFS. (He and I agreed on the likely cause.) When I used his treatment protocol, I was able to work, travel and even play a bit of golf. Some of his treatments like the cell signaling factors seemed unusual, but they worked for me. Since the pandemic, I had not been able to be his patient, but we corresponded about new research studies. I was honored that he respected me enough to discuss complex research concepts. He was certainly not the only doctor to believe that heart problems were a core problem in CFS. The late Dr. Martin Lerner treated many patients from this perspective. I will miss Dr. Cheney forever.
Their Incline Village Nevada clinic diagnosed me w/ ME/cfs as a kiddo .
And this year I was still part of Cheney’s concierge consulting .
On the “Remembering Dr. Cheney” Facebook page, a patient from the original Incline Village outbreak posted a presentation that includes a picture of fingerprint changes Dr. C found in many of his patients. I took my fingerprint yesterday and it looks like the picture of the CFS patient on the left. Dr. C also found crimson crescents in the throats of patients when they were at their sickest. Would be interesting if these turned out to be consistent markers in many patients. A nice legacy from Dr. Cheney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEVadPkHQKc
I’ve quoted many times Cheney’s early idea that it’s better not to try to attack the fatigue, which is probably a way the body is preserving life. Then he emphasized that more when he had his own journey to near-death before his heart transplant. He said he went through all the progression toward death and wondered why CFS patients did not. What was keeping them from dying? Perhaps the reduced metabolism. I have held tight to that question as a comfort over 25 years of illness of my daughter and 35 years of my own struggle for survival. We make not like the life we have but most of us make a life while we figure out our supports (like gookinaid, gentle bouncing or lymph drainage, what we can eat, magnesium, etc.) Dr. Cheney kept us going few others had any interest.
I did not know Dr. Cheney’s work until I read this. I listened to his talk today and now I know why I have had trouble in the past at the airport when they could not get a finger print. I just took a finger print now and it was the same as the CFS one in the picture. My diastolic reading has for the last few years been high. He was really on to something there. The findings about oxygen were fascinating. I have been doing deep breathing exercises lately so seems not such a good idea now. His death, sadly very early, is a great loss to ME/CFS sufferers. The fact that he listened to people, believed them and took interest in their answers is a very rare thing in our world.
Isn’t that something. If I remember correctly, he was the one to spot this.
I will remember him as a really nice person who gave fascinating presentations at conferences. I appreciated his work on our illness so much.
Dr. Paul Cheney was, for me, the answer to my prayers. I became ill in Oct. 1991 and, although diagnosed by my general practitioner with CFS/CFIDS/M.E., my G.P. didn’t know how to treat. My mother got me on a plane and took me to see Dr. Cheney in Charlotte. I had great insurance in those days and Dr. Cheney put me through a lot of testing. But he used a protocol that made my life better. Also, he referred me to important people in the field like Dr. Ismael Mena and Sheila Bastien, Ph.D., who help shore up the diagnosis. But it was because of Dr. Cheney that I believe I was able to obtain a proper diagnosis with tests to back it up. If it weren’t for Dr. Cheney, I do not believe I’d have received SSDI.
When the story of this horrible disease is told, Dr. Cheney deserves an incredible amount of credit for the work he pioneered.
Thanks Cort, for your memorial on this wonderful doctor who truly was a giant in his field, and as they say, a prince among men. Reading through all the tributes to Dr. Cheney confirms so much of what I feel, and I don’t think I can express myself any better.
I hope, like Cort, that somehow the immense and creative work Dr. Cheney did in this field will somehow live on. I do know throughout his life he had collaborated with other doctors and researchers, among them Dr. Naviaux and Dr. Ruggeiro. Dr. Cheney was living with very serious health issues of his own but devoted the rest of his life to his patients and research into this illness.
He did not miss I thing I ever told him, and always looked for a reason to explain a certain symptom instead of dismissing it. He said to me at a few different appointments that he never stopped learning from his patients. At least at one of my appointments, I witnessed an “aha” moment of his. I’m sure his other patients know what I am talking about. At another appointment, I was there the very day it was confirmed he was doing research with Dr. Naviaux and asked if I wanted to be one of the patients in the study. Things never stopped happening with Dr. Cheney.
Perhaps because he was a physicist first, he felt that nothing was impossible. And that benefited us, from being believed to his search for a treatment.
True, this all came with a high financial price tag, and I am very grateful to my family, to be direct, for putting up the money, I know that Dr. Cheney’s protocols were able to filter into our ME/CFS Community through the efforts of Carol Sieverling and other patients who were able and took the effort to write up their appointments.
The last “great act” Dr. Cheney did for me was a few years ago when I had breast cancer. He sent me his anesthetics letter, footnoted and with his many qualifications listed as well as a brief write up of my condition and CFS in general. Now while it is possible that things have changed among certain mainstream doctors/hospitals about CFS, his letter legitimized my condition. It was taken seriously; they couldn’t argue with it. It was night and day to how I was treated 25-30 years ago. I didn’t have to spend my energy convincing doctors of my condition and which type of anesthetic to use etc.
I wish Dr. Cheney had lived long enough to see a real turn in ME CFS and I can only hope he knew how much he and his devotion meant to us.
Condolences to his family and to all who knew him. May he rest in peace.
Hello Amy, After reading your lovely memorial statement regarding Dr. Cheney, I hope that you will not mind my approaching you on a private matter you mentioned therein (I also hope your bc treatment was/is successful). As a CFS-diagnosed woman with a breast problem that the local MD told me looks like he’s seen on a woman with Stage 4 bc, I’d be very grateful to have a copy (with personal details removed) of what Dr. Cheney sent you with regard to the types of anesthetics he was recommending be used for a woman with bc and CFS (I’m awaiting getting more definitive diagnosis until I have a place to live where I can have a bathroom and most of all to be able to lie down to sleep at night; have been sleeping sitting up on the front seat of my jam-packed-with-my-belongings-preventing-putting-the-seat-back car for the past 3 years because landlords refuse to rent to me even when I can “afford” their rent as long as it doesn’t exceed $600/mo, because they have a “one-third rule” that “rent can be no more than a third of your income” and my disability income of some $1,000/mo under their stupid “rule” would require I find a rent of $333/mo, which is of course imposible to find). TYIA if we can communicate further about the possibility of your sharing this vital info with me backchannel; my e-adres is greenfocusheart at outlook.com Best wishes, Greenie (my Internet “handle”)
‘when for a brief period of time I actually had some money, I immediately headed straight for Paul Cheney’
Only people with money doctos like Cheney. People who don’t have money don’t count
Was he connected to the company making klonopin?
I don’t agree that generic klonopon is not the same.
He said it delayed Alzheimer’s. Benzos can Alzheimer’s
He said it was not addictive.All benzos are addictive
Sounds to be was trying to create a market for clonazepam.
I recall thinking that when his site was live