Resource Treat small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)

[Cort]

Cort submitted a new resource:

Treat small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) - Dr. Siebecker's comprehensive approach to treating SIBO

• Dr. Siebeckers handouts on treating small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIB0) using diets and supplements
• Dr. Pimental's treatment strategy - using antibiotics, herbs and diet

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[Who Me?]

I saw my GI doc Monday. She said I can't have SiBO because I don't have diarrhea. I couldn't think straight but my brain was saying, "that's not true" but it didn't come out of my mouth. I don't know for sure if I have it but it can't hurt to take the herbs so I'm doing that vs rifaxmin.

I am going to start with wild oregano oil and then 2 weeks of berberine complex. Then back to OO.

I read something yesterday, sorry I forget what, that said something like only 38% of people get better with ABX, and have to go back and retreat mostly using herbals. And you have to keep retreating it.

 

[Cort]

I saw my GI doc Monday. She said I can't have SiBO because I don't have diarrhea. I couldn't think straight but my brain was saying, "that's not true" but it didn't come out of my mouth. I don't know for sure if I have it but it can't hurt to take the herbs so I'm doing that vs rifaxmin.

I am going to start with wild oregano oil and then 2 weeks of berberine complex. Then back to OO.

I read something yesterday, sorry I forget what, that said something like only 38% of people get better with ABX, and have to go back and retreat mostly using herbals. And you have to keep retreating it.

What is it with these doctors?

http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMarch2013/ibs0213.html

Our experience has been that naturopathic approaches to irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) tend to be highly successful. Often, uncovering and removing hidden food intolerances, adding mindfulness to a rushed approach to meals, or restoring production of digestive acid or enzymes is the key to resolving IBS. But what about those cases in which bloating, abdominal pain, constipation, or diarrhea remain unchanged? After more life-threatening diagnoses are ruled out, where do you turn?

Small intestine bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) is a condition in which abnormally large numbers of commensal bacteria are present in the small intestine. SIBO is a common cause of IBS – in fact it is involved in over half the cases of IBS and as high as 84% in one study using breath testing as the diagnostic marker.1,2 It accounts for 37% of cases wherein endoscopic cultures of aerobic bacteria are used for diagnosis.3 Eradication of this overgrowth leads to a 75% reduction in IBS symptoms.4 Bacterial overgrowth leads to impairment of digestion and absorption and produces excess quantities of hydrogen and/or methane gas. These gases are not produced by human cells but are the metabolic product of fermentation of carbohydrates by intestinal bacteria. When commensal bacteria (oral, small intestine or large intestine) multiply in the small intestine to the point of overgrowth, IBS is likely. Hydrogen/methane breath testing is the most widely used method of testing for this overgrowth. Stool testing has no value in diagnosing SIBO.

Symptoms of SIBO include:
• bloating/ abdominal gas
• flatulence, belching
• abdominal pain, discomfort, or cramps
• constipation, diarrhea or a mixture of the two
• heartburn
• nausea
• malabsorption: steatorrhea, anemia
• systemic symptoms: headache, joint/muscle pain, fatigue, rosacea

Good luck!​

 

[Remy]

God forbid a specialist actually spend any time studying the diseases they are meant to treat....

 

[ScottTriGuy]

One day in the future, society will look back with shock at how (some) doctors treated us and other patients. The harm will be measured. Should be measured now.

 

[Who Me?]

God forbid a specialist actually spend any time studying the diseases they are meant to treat....

Let's make a list!!

 

[Who Me?]

@Cort even if she went for it I don't think I'd survive the 3 hours it takes to do the test.

I started wild oregano today.

 

[Hari]

I used Dr. Ohhira's OMX probiotics.

It helps to maintain intestinal health apart from improving immune health, sleep quality and few more. They are very expensive. I had done extensive study and verification before my first use.

Please see their FAQ.

http://drohhiraprobiotics.com/probiotics-faq/

Had anyone used any other probiotics or this, and gained benefits?

Have fun,

Hari

 

[Folk]

I saw my GI doc Monday. She said I can't have SiBO because I don't have diarrhea. I couldn't think straight but my brain was saying, "that's not true" but it didn't come out of my mouth. I don't know for sure if I have it but it can't hurt to take the herbs so I'm doing that vs rifaxmin.

I am going to start with wild oregano oil and then 2 weeks of berberine complex. Then back to OO.

I read something yesterday, sorry I forget what, that said something like only 38% of people get better with ABX, and have to go back and retreat mostly using herbals. And you have to keep retreating it.

Yeah, I don't have diarrhea and my SIBO test was so high we stopped after one hour.
Will start the ABX soon

 

[Who Me?]

Yikes! Doctor's just don't know. Where did you have it done? Lab, hospital? I couldn't get through the 3 hours it takes to do the test. I'm just assuming I do since the treatment will help other stuff.

@Folk, if you don't want to do rifaximib, look into Wild oregano oil and Berberine Complex. I think this link has the info, I'm not positive.

http://www.naturaldigestivehealing.com/blog/2011/08/19/natural-anti-microbial-supplements-for-ibd/

Noni juice will cure your Sibo. Lol

 

[Folk]

Yikes! Doctor's just don't know. Where did you have it done? Lab, hospital? I couldn't get through the 3 hours it takes to do the test. I'm just assuming I do since the treatment will help other stuff.

@Folk, if you don't want to do rifaximib, look into Wild oregano oil and Berberine Complex. I think this link has the info, I'm not positive.

http://www.naturaldigestivehealing.com/blog/2011/08/19/natural-anti-microbial-supplements-for-ibd/

Noni juice will cure your Sibo. Lol

hahah

I've done it twice. First in Brazil at one Drs. office who had no clue about CFS/ME, which came out negative, but his machine was pretty different than most... and 3 hours after the test I felt the worst pain of my life in my gut, and it lasted +- 4 hours including throwing up in the airplane back home (it was in another city). That was a strange negative...

So I had an appt at OMI and Dr. Kaufmann said he was sure I had it, and I took it again, with the normal machine and it came highly positive. That time though I didn't feel that horrible pain... just abdominal discomfort.

I really want to do the Rifaximin though, you have no idea how hard was to find it

 

[Who Me?]

@Folk. Wiped now but I'll pm you with rifaximin sources. I found some. Just have to hunt for them.

I would be dead after that long. 2 hours my max.

Why did you puke? I know nothing about the test except they take samples of breath

 

[Folk]

@Folk. Wiped now but I'll pm you with rifaximin sources. I found some. Just have to hunt for them.

I would be dead after that long. 2 hours my max.

Why did you puke? I know nothing about the test except they take samples of breath

You have to take a lactulose solution and then go measuring the Hidrogen level in your breath.

The lactulose can cause abdominal discomfort, nausea etc... Even though I think normally it doesn't.

That combined with the pain and the fact that I already normaly feel nausea in any moving veichle was enough.

The second time was ok. Just diarrhea but that's kind of expected cause lactulose is also used as a laxative...

 

[Who Me?]

I'll pass.